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21 August 2016 @ 10:42 pm
Meanwhile on Angel  
A quick update of what the Great Broody One has been up to in LA since the last crossover. In very short, we keep on coming across a certain law firm, we keep on seeing a blonde policewoman, and Cordelia and Doyle are not wholly hitting it off.

I Fall to Pieces

Cordelia wants a pay raise to pay for certain designer needs. She and Doyle agree that the mysterious flowy coat vibe isn’t enough – money is required and they should charge.


Angel visits Melissa, who Doyle’s vision has warned needs their services. She says she doesn’t, but we learn she’s being stalked by one creepy dude. He seems to know what she does even while alone. Kate confirms there was a complaint, but his lawyers rebutted it. Wanna guess the firm’s name?


Angel investigates, Doyle protects, Cordy poses as a reporter. Then we see the creep has detachable hands – which can feel a girl up while he’s standing many yards away. He’s coming to pieces, literally. He thinks he’s killed Angel, but it didn’t take, so Mr Broody is able to defeat him. And the girl actually pays a fee for the job.

Rm w/a Vu

Cordelia avoids talking on the phone to a former Cordette, because her life is so rubbish. Her apartment is full of bugs, so she tries to move in with Angel.


This is very stressful for him, to the extent that he bribes Doyle to find her an apartment. The perfect place is mysteriously available and affordable.


That’s because it is haunted. The ghost tries to kill Cordy; it turns out lots of previous tenants have killed themselves since the death of the first resident.


But Cordy remembers she’s the nastiest girl in Sunnydale and takes no crap from dead old women.


We discover that she killed her son Dennis. And after she is dealt with, he stays on as Cordy’s housemate.

Sense and Sensitivity

Angel is insensitive. Cordy says so, and who’d know better than her? and not to bring up the irony, but... consider the source!


Kate wants AI to find a villain. Her Dad drops by to say hi. Angel wears a Hawaiian shirt.


It turns out the villain has a very good legal team. Guess the firm. As a result Kate has to undergo official sensitivity training.


So then she apologises to Angel for her insensitivity and invites him to her Dad’s retirement party, where she is inappropriately emotional and bursts into tears. As do others. And then she gets all emotional and perceptive over Angel and Cordelia.


There is chaos as all the police are hyper-sensitive. Angel finds out what’s causing it, but is infected with gentleness and empathy too. Once Cordelia breaks in, however, he is able to rescue Kate, despite feeling uncomfortable about vandalism. And the next day it’s all back to normal.


Though the baddy’s lawyers have dropped him, because they are aware there’s a more serious (broody) problem in LA.


Quick summaries - apologies if I missed your favourite bit - do feel free to comment about it below.

Angel, like so many Whedon shows, is a little slow in picking up pace: there are an awful lot of talky-talky scenes in these episodes. Yes, there are important themes, especially about Daddy issues (and Mummy issues). One of my favourite lines from early AtS is here: My parents were great. (Grabs stick, vamps out) Tasted a lot like chicken..

Personally I find Kate uninspiring, partly because I don't really rate Elizabeth Rohm's acting. The W&H stuff is building nicely, but is still mostly background. Cordelia and Doyle are doing a Beatrice and Benedict act which might just lead somewhere but is taking its time. Angel is still using pretty much the same expression for all purposes.

I know many rate the spinoff even higher than the original show, but I would argue it's quite a long way from its stride as yet.

Opinions? Comments? Your input is much welcomed before we return to our normal BtVS.

Images are all from Screencapped.net as usual.
slaymesoftlyslaymesoftly on August 21st, 2016 09:57 pm (UTC)
There were many things to admire about AtS, and it some ways it often did seem... not better, but perhaps more grownup? than BtVS. But it did take it awhile to get going, I haven't seen every episode, and it's been years, so my opinion is pretty worthless. :)
gillogillo on August 22nd, 2016 08:15 pm (UTC)
I liked Doyle, and his last two episodes were very good, but for me it powered up a notch when Wesley arrived.
Dannachasingdemons on August 21st, 2016 11:43 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the little update. Wasn't expecting ATS.

I know many rate the spinoff even higher than the original show, but I would argue it's quite a long way from its stride as yet.

I always thought it was a very worthy show with many good/great episodes, but for me it never matched BtVS in quality. And there were a greater number of throw away episodes IMO. But still, a worthy show.

I am really surprised when someone tells me they loved BtVS but didn't watch Angel. I DON'T GET THIS AT ALL. And I've heard it from several people.

I actually found Kate interesting. I wished she would have lasted on the show longer.

Edited at 2016-08-21 11:44 pm (UTC)
Butterflysnogged on August 21st, 2016 11:59 pm (UTC)
I didn't care for Elizabeth Rohm either.

I did enjoy Angel as a show though. I would agree that S1 is not where it hit its stride, but that's the case with a lot of shows.
Double Dutchess: Angel alleydouble_dutchess on August 22nd, 2016 12:02 am (UTC)
It's been several years since I watched AtS, and I haven't rewatched most of the episodes since, but that's because lack of time, not because I didn't enjoy it. I did! Overall I'm a Buffy fan first, but I liked Angel a lot too.
itsnotmymind: darlaitsnotmymind on August 22nd, 2016 12:26 am (UTC)
It's been a long time since I saw those episodes, but I remember really liking I Fall to Pieces, and thinking room w/a Vu was fun. The Kate one, not so much. Not a good episode.

I liked, didn't love Kate. In retrospect, she seems pointless, but I recall hearing she was supposed to team up with Holtz but they lost the actress and introduced Justine, instead. Since I love Justine, I am not complaining hugely. But it would have given Kate a point.
Trepkostrepkos on August 22nd, 2016 08:01 am (UTC)
Interesting - I can see her doing that.
cornerofmadnesscornerofmadness on August 22nd, 2016 02:22 am (UTC)
I liked Doyle and missed him once he was gone. I liked Kate too (though yeah less thrilled with Rohm's portrayal). I think there was a missed opportunity toward the end of her tenure on the show when Angel was able to get around the ban on uninvited entry to get into her place.
itsnotmymind: druitsnotmymind on August 22nd, 2016 12:11 pm (UTC)
I thought Angel getting around the ban was in keeping with the random, unexplained miracles we see in AtS (hello, Connnor!). It worked for me as making a philosophical point.
cornerofmadnesscornerofmadness on August 22nd, 2016 04:16 pm (UTC)
There is that. I remember reading they had planned more with it but then they didn't bring Kate back to explore the idea.
itsnotmymind: harmonyitsnotmymind on August 23rd, 2016 12:14 pm (UTC)
I seem to recall hearing that they lost the actress.
cornerofmadnesscornerofmadness on August 23rd, 2016 08:20 pm (UTC)
Yeah that's what I remember
Trepkos: Check by Mrs Spocktrepkos on August 22nd, 2016 08:00 am (UTC)
I love the line "Mr and Mrs Spock need to mind-meld now"!
Shapinglight: dark avengershapinglight on August 23rd, 2016 10:08 am (UTC)
I think Sense and Sensitivity is hilarious. It shows that DB has a real flair for comedy if he's allowed to let rip.

I do like AtS a lot, but it could never really compare to BtVS, in that BtVS is a groundbreaking show in many ways (I think it's influenced a lot of people who've never even watched it) but AtS is yet another in a long line of shows about maverick, troubled male detectives. Mind you, for the most part, the AtS scripts are a damn sight better.